|01-05-2008, 05:38 AM||#1|
Join Date: Nov 2007
A Zombie Debate
OOOk, so semi-serious debate...
Could Zombies, in this modern day and era, ever:
1.) Become present (as in a zombie becomes "alive").
2.) Be a real and national threat.
Well obviously already, this is a very broad subject as there as wide and vast spectrum of zombie theories and hypothesis. But I think the most crucial element to this is going to specifically, WHAT KIND of zombie.
As you may or may not know, there are two main types of zombie, divided into several different subgroups (i.e Fast/Slow Zombie, Strong/Weak)
The two main types being...
A.) Zombie made via Chemical/Biological
B.) Zombie made via Magic/Supernatural
For this debate we'll shall go with Chemical/Biological zombies, as they seem simply more practical in todays standard.
These zombies are more "ethically" made into the living dead be some kind of virus/bio-chemical/electrical method that reanimates the brain and body.
These zombies are theatrically depicted in speed to be very sluggish, ranging all the way to faster than humans (stamina wise) in some cases.
They posses little to no knowledge, they're actions are made of habit and instinct of hunger for energy. It's also been depicted/theorized that some zombies have human to supernatural strength out of all unlikelihood.
Now as much of a zombie fan I am, I'm probably the most pessimistic person there is of the likelihood that a zombie invasion could come.
My current case being built upon three crucial bases. But because this is for fun I would rather see peoples pro and cons added to the zombie apocalypse theories.
So come one, come all and share a tale It's 2:30 in the morn' and I'm as bored as hell.
Yup, I know that last part rhymed (kinda ). Sad ain't it?
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|01-05-2008, 08:36 AM||#2|
Lion of Judah
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Wandering the streets of Sheol, trying to gather some food.
Yes, this topic borders on the edge of being senseless. However, to humor you, I'll try to see what I can do here.
If anything like this would EVER be possible, it would most likely not be a virus. In a more realistic setup, I could see our genetical experimenting go awry. Test-tube babies without a humanoid brain or conscience, insane bloodlust, etcetera. Several parts of the human brain ( I'm not a specialist on the subject so don't hold me to this ) have been toyed with in the past to alter the personality and behaviour of people. Frontal lobotomy springs to mind here; what if the reverse of that were true?
I don't see this happening as a virus, though. Resident Evil never appealed to me in that aspect. Which also means it wouldn't spread out as an epidemic. However, if we consider rabies, it's all up in the air again. Could humanity create a virus that is transfered through saliva and other bodily fluids, that causes a deranged state of mind much reminiscent of zombies? Well, we can do a lot with chemical alteration these days... Some psychiatric patients already come close to zombie-like levels, and that's mostly just because of the meds.
An epidemic outbreak is something I don't see happening, though. See, the whole problem with zombies is the fact they're the walking dead. While I can see someone taking up zombie-like qualities, I can't realistically see the dead stand up and walk the streets. So that's where the thing ends, I guess; if they're not dead, they can still die, and they won't be as much of a threat anyway.
|01-05-2008, 11:23 AM||#3|
A bastard and loving it
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Whiskeygakure no sato, country of Cilts
1.) Become present (as in a zombie becomes "alive").
2.) Be a real and national threat.
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|01-05-2008, 12:32 PM||#4|
Join Date: Jun 2007
I really don't know, but I do believe that zombies can be real....maybe. Though I doubt they'd ever be a national threat, from all of these movies that have came out, I think we'd know what to do, and not make a stupid mistake like the people do in the movies, so we would be able to contain it. Though I think something like in 28 Days Later and it's sequal is something that might be able to happen.
Though in some countries there are cases of supernatural zombies through the use of zombie powder (which I believe is a mixture of drugs). But I don't think those are really zombies. If there will ever be zombies it would be via chemical.biological...and they'd be super fast and strong. Like I said, it would probably be more like 28 Days/Weeks Later or I am Legend.
|01-05-2008, 12:49 PM||#5|
The Prince of Hell
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: A Divine Assailant of Heaven, or Hells Demonic Assassin?
Well, I feel like adding in my opinion as I like tales about zombies.
1) The possibility that a zombie outbreak becomes a reality in the the real world, I would have to put that next to the chances that dragons come flying out of volcanoes and start attacking major cities. So no.....I would give that 1 in a million chance at best.
2)If it happened, it would all depend on the level of out break and how the virus spread. Most zombie infections are spread via a bite, though the Resident Evil series had the infection spread through the air when the out break first took place.*This was at the mansion not in the city.*
It also greatly depends on the type of zombie your dealing with. If it's your standard Romero Zombie(Meaning Night of the Living Dead) then no.....they pose a small threat. Slow, stupid and only as strong as they were when they were alive.
Now, if it's your new Romero zombies*Dawn of the Dead, the 2000 version* where they are either smart or have limitless stamina due to their lack of a need to breath and produce chemical energy, then I would say yes, they pose a much larger threat.
In the new Land of the Dead, the zombies slowly become smarter, eventually using guns and tools, but the smarter ones seem to avoid eating humans, though killing them is something they still do.
It also varies on the response the public gives to the undead, weather they act like a bunch of morons and act like movie twats or they know how the infection spreads and slowly take down the zombies. There are variables that must be taken into account with zombies.
A)It really just depends on if they are reanimated or if they are virally revived and continue to mutate as in Resident Evil. I also depends on how the revival effects them, as in High School of the Dead. In HSotD, the zombies are actually blind, but sense their prey through sound and the heat they give off, they also become very ravenous when in close quarters. If it's resident evil, then they are just slow, stupid, but attack in mass and use sight. Lastly, it also depends on if they were experiments and mutate, can infect other species and if there are other experiments*As in the Resident Evil series.
Though I agree with what Sovereign said, I don't really see this happening. The only thing that is scary about a zombie is their resilience, that only an injury to the head can put them down.
|01-05-2008, 06:34 PM||#7|
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: 3 million years into deep space (turn left at the swirly thing)
Could some man made nasty stuff infect millions and turn them into mallicious, braindead, drewling, disgustingly unsightfull and plain old murderous monsters?
Would they be a major (inter)national threat to sensible life forms of any and all kinds?
I'd even tell you what the cause of this zombiefication was/is.. but i'd call attention to myself.. and i don't want my brain liquified by the infected masses.
|01-26-2008, 04:54 AM||#8|
Join Date: Mar 2007
Could they exsist? mabey, givin todays world anythings possible right?
Become a threat? depends on the circumstances, if the military views it as a threat early on and quaratines (i.e. nukes) the origins of the infected then no.
Am I prepared? ohhh you bet your ass I am....I don't really care if it happens or not. I however have a plan in case it does happen. I even have a book Zombie Survival Guide its a good read, but keep an open mind cause most of this zombie stuff sounds a lot like bull. However I like to think it could happen.
And if the ever impending zombie apocolypse comes, ill be armed to the teeth ready to lead the human race to survival, and willing to decapitate all those who are infected, bitten, or in my way. I say bring it you nasty difilements of nature!!!!
|01-26-2008, 11:44 AM||#9|
Rocket Vs. Engine, I Win!!!!
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Kras City
ShinOni I have read that book as well and it does make it sound like this sort of thing could happen. Though I dont like the method with which they said it would come to happen, I find Sovereign's idea much more feesable, but even then i dont think that the virus would spread, weed more likely deal with a small group in one area.
However, if an outbreak did happen through fluid transfer then I would say that we would probably lose over half the worlds population to the virus simply because alot of people out there are extremely stupid and would try to fight the things close range. Wanna kill a zombie? You gun down its legs so it cant walk then decapitate it and burn the body. Since the brain controls the body decapitating it would be the best possible solution.
5 Basic zombie killing tools
3. Flammible liquid
5. Axe or sledge hammer
|01-26-2008, 11:45 AM||#10|
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Phoenix, AZ
See, I think it's possible.
Somehow, in some messed up way, I think it's possible that we could somehow either create or just overall attract a zombie disease/infection/paraside/Resident Evil 4 type stuff.
If so, I think many people are ready for it. First of all, I'll do what no one ever really does in Resident Evil games, raid a gun store. Raid it for all it's worth. Also, I think some sort of memo should be sent out to all FPS gamers, and RE gamers, and gamers in general, to all meet in one place with all your guns.
Granted we might shoot each other since some of us aren't such a social bunch, but ya know, fodder for the zombies to slow em down?
Anyway, I've dreamed this over and over again. It's awesome guys, even if it is you know, apocolyptic, it's the best way for the apocolypse to come
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